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BAVA BASRA 16 - Dedicated by Eddie and Esther Turkel of N.Y. and family.
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1) THE AFFLICTIONS OF IYOV
(a) Messengers cam in succession telling Iyov about the
loss of his property and children. Iyov accepted it and
blessed Hash-m. The Satan still praised Avraham, and
Hash-m praised Iyov.
(b) (R. Yochanan): "Va'Tesiseni" - if the verse did not say
that Hash-m was enticed, it would be forbidden to say
this.
1. (Beraisa): The Satan descends, causes people to
sin, ascends, prosecutes, and receives permission to
kill.
2. The Satan thought that if Iyov himself was
stricken, he would blaspheme. Hash-m authorized the
Satan to do as he wanted to him, on condition that
he keep Iyov alive.
3. (R. Yitzchak): The Satan was in more pain than
Iyov. i/t was very hard to ravage his body and
preserve his life.
(c) (Reish Lakish): The Satan, evil inclination, and the
angel of death these are all one.
1. A Gezeirah Shavah teaches that the Satan is the
evil inclination;
2. Since Hash-m told him to guard Iyov's life, we
learn that he can take lives, i.e. he is the angel
of death.
(d) (R. Yehoshua ben Levi): The Satan and Peninah both
intended for the sake of Heaven.
1. The Satan was concerned that Hashem's love of
Iyov might detract from his love for Avraham.
2. Peninah pained Chanah (about being barren)
"Ba'avor Hare'imah", in order that Chanah would pray
to Hash-m. (Ben Yehoyada - surely, she was punished
so severely because she intended to pain her.
Rather, Elkanah did not rebuke her because she said
that she intends l'Shem Shamayim.)
3. Rav Acha bar Yakov expounded like this, and the
Satan kissed his knees.
2) IYOV'S REACTION
(a) (Rava): "Lo Chata Iyov bi'Sfasav (he did not sin with
his lips, i.e. speech)", but he sinned in his heart.
(b) Question: What does it mean "Eretz Nitenah b'Yad
Rasha"?
(c) Answer #1 (Rava): Iyov blasphemed (he said this about
Hash-m).
(d) Answer #2 (Abaye): Iyov said this about the Satan.
1. Tana'im argued about this. R. Eliezer said like
Rava, and R. Yehoshua said like Abaye.
(e) (Rava): "Al Datecha Lo Ersha v'Ein mi'Yadcha Matzil" -
Iyov sought to exempt the whole world from judgment, by
saying that there is no free choice;
1. Just like Hash-m created Tahor animals and Tamei
animals, He created Tzadikim and Resha'im, one
cannot change the way he was created!
(f) Question: How did his friends respond?
(g) Answer: Indeed Hash-m created the evil inclination, but
He also created the Torah to enable people to overcome
it.
(h) (Rava): "Birkas Oved Alai Tavo" - Iyov would steal
orphans' fields, improve them and return them;
1. "V'Lev Almanah Arnin" - if a widow was unable to
remarry, Iyov would speak on her behalf or say she
was his relative to help her remarry.
(i) (Rav): Iyov's mouth should be filled with dirt for the
following things he said:
1. "Lu Shakol Yishakel (if only we would see who is
justified)" - one speaks to a person thusly, but not
to Hash-m!
2. "Lo Yesh Beineinu Mochi'ach" - a slave does not
rebuke his master!
(j) (Rava): His mouth should be filled with dirt also for
"Bris Korati l'Einai u'Mah Esbonen Al Besulah." He
credits himself for not looking at other women;
1. Avraham did not even look at his own wife -
"Hinei Na Yadati Ki Ishah Yefas Mar'eh At";
2. Inference: Until now, he did not know!
(k) (Rava): "Yored She'ol Lo Ya'aleh" - Iyov denied revival
of the dead.
(l) (Rava): "Bi'Sarah Yeshufeni" - he blasphemed by
speaking of Se'arah (a stormy wind), and Hash-m answered
by speaking of Sa'ar (hair);
1. Iyov suggested that a stormy wind caused a
confusion, and the punishment intended for Oyev (the
enemy) was meted to Iyov;
2. "Va'Ya'an Hash-m... Min ha'Se'arah..." - I
created so many hairs on a person's head, each is
fed from its own follicle;
i. If two hairs would come from the same follicle,
the person would be blinded;
3. I did not confuse two hairs. Will you say that I
confused Oyev and Iyov?!
4. "Mi Filag la'Shetef Te'alah" - I created clouds,
with so many drops of water; each has its own
cavity;
i. If two drops would come from the same cavity,
they would make the ground muddy and unable to
bear fruit.
5. I did not confuse two drops. Will you say that I
confused Oyev and Iyov?!
i. Question: What is the source that "Te'alah"
means 'cavity'?
ii. Answer (Rabah bar Shila): "Va'Ya'as
Te'alah" (Eliyahu dug a trench around his
Altar).
6. "V'Derech la'Chaziz Kolos" - I created many
sounds (thunder) in the clouds, each has its own
channel;
i. If two sounds would come from the same channel,
they would destroy the world.
7. I did not confuse two sounds. Will you say that I
confused Oyev and Iyov?!
8. "Ha'Yadata Es Ledes Ya'alei Sala" - a wild goat
is cruel to its young, it ascends a mountain in
order that the baby will fall to its death when it
is born;
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9. I prepare a Nesher (eagle or vulture) to catch
the baby on its wings, and return it to the mother.
i. If the Nesher would come a moment earlier or
later, the baby would die.
10. I did not miscalculate by a moment. Will you say
that I confused Oyev and Iyov?!
11. "Cholel Ayalos Tishmor" - the womb of a hart
(wild goat) is narrow. When it is ready to give
birth, I send a snake to bite it, causing the womb
to open more;
i. If the snake would come a moment earlier or
later, it would die.
12. I did not miscalculate by a moment. Will you say
that I confused Oyev and Iyov?!
(m) (Rava): "Iyov Lo b'Da'as Yedaber" teaches that one is
not liable for what he says when in pain.
(n) Question: "Iyov's three friends heard of his
afflictions... va'Yiva'adu Yachdav." What does this mean?
(o) Answer (Rav Yehudah): They all arrived at the same
moment.
1. (Beraisa): Each was 300 Parsa'os (a Parsah is
about four kilometers) from each other.
(p) Question: How did they know of his afflictions?
(q) Answer: Each had a crown (another version - tree) with
images of the faces of his three friends;
1. If a face withered, this showed that he was
suffering afflictions.
2. (Rava): If one does not have friends like Iyov's,
it is better to die.
3) HAVING DAUGHTERS
(a) (R. Yochanan): "Hechel ha'Adam Larov... u'Vanos Yuldu
Lahem" - when a girl is born, Rivya (reproduction) comes
to the world.
(b) (Reish Lakish): Merivah (quarrels) comes to the world.
(c) Question (Reish Lakish against R. Yochanan): According
to you, why didn't Hash-m give Iyov twice as many
daughters as he originally had (just like he doubled
everything else)?
(d) Answer (R. Yochanan): They were not doubled in number,
but they were doubled in beauty (we learn from their
names);
1. Yamimah was as clear as the Yom (the daytime
sun);
2. Ketzi'ah smelled like Ketzi'ah (cassia, an
ingredient of the incense);
3. (D'Vei R. Shila): Keren ha'Puch was (black) like
the horn of a Keresh (giraffe).
4. Rejection (Rabanan in Eretz Yisrael): This is not
beautiful!
5. (Rav Chisda): Rather, she was like garden
saffron.
(e) A daughter was born to R. Shimon, the son of Rebbi. He
felt bad.
1. Rebbi: Rivya came to the world!
2. Bar Kapara: Rebbi gave empty consolation.
i. (Beraisa): The world needs males and females,
but happy is one who has sons, and woe to the
one who has daughters;
ii. The world needs perfumers and tanners.
Happy is a perfumer, and woe to the tanner (he
absorbs the odor of excrement, which is used in
tanning).
(f) Tana'im argue whether having daughters is good.
1. (Beraisa - R. Meir): "Va'shem Berach Es Avraham
ba'Kol" - he did not have a daughter;
2. R. Yehudah says, this teaches that he had a
daughter;
3. Others say, 'he had a daughter named 'Bakol'.
4. R. Eliezer ha'Moda'i says, he knew how to read
the stars. All the kings of the east and west
constantly came to him for advice.
5. R. Shimon says, he hung a special stone around
his neck. Any sick person who looked at it was be
cured immediately;
i. When Avraham died, Hash-m hung the stone on the
sun;
ii. (Abaye): That is why people say 'a sickness
lightens when day comes.
6. Also, he was blessed 'ba'Kol', that he died
before Esav rebelled, and Yishmael repented in
Avraham's lifetime.
4) YISHMAEL REPENTED, BUT ESAV DID NOT
(a) Question: What is the source that that Avraham died
before Esav rebelled?
(b) Answer: The day that Esav sold his birthright, Yakov
was cooking lentils to console Yitzchak, for Avraham died
that day.
(c) Question: Why are lentils fitting for a mourner?
(d) Answer #1 (Rabah bar Mari): Just like lentils have no
mouth (opening), also a mourner (talks little).
(e) Answer #2: Just like lentils are round, also mourning
is a cycle, everyone will eventually be mourned over by
others.
(f) Question: What is the difference between these answers?
(g) Answer: They argue about consoling with eggs (they have
no mouth, but they are not round like a circle).
(h) (R. Yochanan): Esav committed five transgressions that
day. He had Bi'ah with a Na'arah Me'orasah, he murdered,
he denied Hash-m, he denied revival of the dead, and he
cast off the privilege of the firstborn (i.e. to do the
Avodah).
(i) Question: What is the source that Yishmael repented in
Avraham's lifetime?
(j) Answer: We learn from the following.
1. Question (Ravina): Does 'Geviyah' always refer to
a Tzadik's death?
2. Answer (Rav Chama bar Buzi): Yes.
3. Question (Ravina): It says this regarding the
generation of the flood!
4. Answer (Rav Chama): I meant that 'Geviyah' and
'Asifah' together always refer to a Tzadik's death
5. Question: It says 'Geviyah' and 'Asifah' by
Yishmael!
6. Answer (Rava): R. Yochanan taught that Yishmael
repented in Avraham's lifetime.
i. It says "va'Yikberu Oso Yitzchak v'Yishmael"
(Yitzchak was first).
7. Question: Perhaps the verse lists them in order
of their Chachmah!
8. Rejection "Va'Yikberu Oso Esav v'Yakov"!
i. Rather, we must say that Yitzchak is listed
first because Yishmael deferred to him, i.e. he
repented.
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